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So, it’s transphobic to admit that the definition of a lesbian always has been and always will be a member of the FEMALE sex exclusively attracted to other members of the FEMALE sex? Gender identity is irrelevant to SEXual orientation. Is it transphobic to be annoyed when non-lesbians try to enter communities who they don’t belong in and re-define the words that lesbians use to describe their (exclusively same-sex attracted) experiences?

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*takes a deep breath and eats a plate of chuck*

Where to begin. There’s a great many logical fallacies at work here, so bear with me while I point them out to you as I simultaneously delve into the substantive arguments.

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I should also mention that if any other TERFs would like to come out of the woodwork to tell me why they and they alone represent femininity, I will laugh in their faces and block them most happily.

Nearly every woman I know, and I use that word to represent “born females” and trans women, have “taken shit” from a TERF on this website at one point or another. So apparently, you don’t represent women. You represent your own idea of womanhood, and only advocate for those who either agree with you or fit into your niche, which honestly, is as loathsome as white supremacy and capitalist elitism.

So…please do consider yourself excluded. As dismayed as I am not to have a truly representative survey of humankind with regard to my study, I’ll just have to find it in my heart to not care about only having an account of the polite humans offered up by this species.

Hell, I knew it would have at least one skew to it. That’s life.

Preach.

You like bees too, eh?

Yes to everything Simon said AND ALSO

OMG THE GENDER HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SEXUALITY IN THE SAME FUCKING SET OF ASKS AS “A LESBIAN IS A WOMAN ATTRACTED TO A WOMAN” OMFG CAN YOU NOT SEE THE CONTRADICTION?????? OF COURSE GENDER HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH SEXUALITY. JFC.

But I wanna talk about the trans phobia of trans men. That shit is
disgusting. I think to me its especially gross because of the idea that
trans men are somehow betraying their kind to become the enemy. Like if
that’s how you think of men in general, then no fucking wonder you’re so
bitter. And then on top of that, I’d wanna jump ship too if that is the
true core of what it means to be a woman. But that isn’t what’s
happening. They’re not abandoning their own kind. THEY NEVER WERE FEMALE
you fucking twits. JUST LIKE TRANS WOMEN WERE NEVER MALE. 

Look, I get the whole “men redefining femininity” argument, but like Simon said, that’s not what’s happening here. You have people who’ve never experienced masculinity in the way cis men do, trying to match socially defined categories. There’s going to be shift, overlap, and on and on, and when shit’s that complicated, all you care about is their genitals? The dick and balls disgust you so much? Like what about trans women who want to cut that off? Not good enough? Like changing their physical body isn’t enough for you to just shut the fuck up about your internal plumbing?

You don’t speak for women. You don’t speak for feminism. And now I get why there are so many fucking women who hate Feminism. Like, now it makes sense. If this is what they associate with the concept of feminism, it makes complete sense why they’d be like EW.

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